I think an important part of the “D&D is easy to learn” argument is that a lot of those people don’t actually know how to play D&D. They know they need to roll a d20 and add some numbers and sometimes they need to roll another type of die for damage. A part of it is the culture of basically fucking around and letting the GM sort it out. Players don’t actually feel the need to learn the rules.
Now I don’t think the above actually counts as knowing the rules. D&D is a relatively crunchy game that actually rewards system mastery and actually learning how to play D&D well, as in to make mechanically informed tactical decisions and utilizing the mechanics to your advantage, is actually a skill that needs to be learned and cultivated. None of that is to say that you need to be a perfectly tuned CharOp machine to know how to play D&D. But to actually start to make the sorts of decisions D&D as a game rewards you kind of need to know the rules.
And like, a lot of people don’t seem to know the rules. They know how to play D&D in the most abstract sense of knowing that they need to say things and sometimes the person scowling at them from behind the screen will ask them to roll a die. But that’s hardly engaging with the mechanics of the game, like the actual game part.
And to paraphrase @prokopetz this also contributes to the impression that other games are hard to learn: because a lot of other games don’t have the same culture of play of D&D so like instead of letting new players coast by with a shallow understanding of the rules and letting the GM do all the work, they ask players to start making mechanically informed decisions right away. Sure, it can suck for onboarding, but learning from your mistakes can often be a great way to learn.
I think this also hurts group dynamics as well.
When you have people that have actually done some reading on the rules vs. people that just coast and foist the majority of the game onto the GM, it makes it appear like the more knowledgeable players are sweaty power-gamers or rules-laywers.
Best example I’ve got with asking players to make informed decisions was when I ran the Wilderfeast Quick Start. The GM has the info about what ingredients can be gathered in any of the regions, but the party then has to cook it. They know what the ingredient does and just have to make the decision on how they want to combine their ingredients as a party.
My point is not to say that people who don’t want to learn the rules shouldn’t play, only that people who don’t actually know the rules aren’t necessarily engaging with the game to its fullest, especially in the case of a relatively rules-heavy game like D&D, and that as the previous poster mentioned it can actually result in a bad rules dynamic where the DM needs to do more work due to player unwillingness to learn the rules as well as casting players who actually know the rules and can engage with them in unfavorable light. All of these are negative elements of the culture of play surrounding.
Like, there isn’t anything meaningfully gatekeepy about saying “players who don’t know the rules of the game aren’t as good at playing the game as the people who know the rules of the game.” Because playing games is a skill that can be cultivated and knowledge of the rules is an important part of that skill.
And respectfully, if the idea of learning the rules of D&D seems like an insurmountable task, you don’t have to learn them, but you might actually gain something out of actually making an effort because it can make engaging with the game more rewarding for you. Or if the idea of learning the rules of a game that has hundreds of pages is an insurmountable obstacle, there are lots of games with much more modest page counts! D&D is actually relatively heavy as far as RPGs go but it’s not the only RPG, and you can get rewarding mechanical engagement combined with cool stories for a much smaller time investment.
Pointing out that, if you’re playing a game with a several-hundred-page rulebook and haven’t even made the effort to read the parts of it relevant to your character, then you’re pushing a lot of cognitive load onto your friends, isn’t gatekeeping. Nobody’s kicking you out of your group for it.
i also think that the OP is kind of more about the people who bite back against people going “hey, maybe try something other than D&D” with “but those games are too crunchy/hard to learn” when they don’t even really know the actual rules of D&D. i mean, i’ve had people like this push back against learning PbtA games.
i really hope this was just an unusual case, but i’ve even had that exist response from one of the local DMs where i live, when i invited him to be a player in a game of Masks i was starting up.
Oh yeah, that was definitely the original context. And it’s really funny to hear “learning another game is hard” as a reason for not engaging in game beyond D&D when clearly people are not learning D&D either if they consider the act of reading the rules beyond the pale.
The folks this post is about are the reason you get dudes on Reddit posting about prepping to DM games for 60+ hours a week and still feeling inadequate.
At this point, it’s a fun game for *almost* everyone at the table. And nobody wants to take on the role that has you showing up to game night with a wagon full of paper, an external hard drive, and a heart condition due to anxiety.
Be kind to your GM. Learn bits of the rules and help out :)
Quite so. If you just want to fool around and occasionally roll some shiny math rocks, that’s a perfectly cromulent aspiration, and there are plenty of games that will give you exactly that – but if you just want to fool around and occasionally roll some shiny math rocks while simultaneously insisting upon using a rules-heavy system whose rules you refuse to learn, what you’re doing in practice is making the GM do all the work of playing your character for you. It isn’t gatekeeping to point this out; it’s simply a fact. To be sure, there are a few GMs who are receptive to that sort of thing – it’s often termed “black box” play in the hobby’s jargon, likening the rules to a box the players can’t see inside – but most GMs merely tolerate having all the work of making your character happen dumped on them for the sake of avoiding drama. It can be worthwhile to think carefully about whether this is something you’re really okay with doing to someone you call a friend.
Like, there’s this stereotype of the “play literally any other game” crowd as a bunch of arty snobs who want to force everybody to play semi-freeform Jungian psychodramas about giant telepathic bugs or what-have-you, but in my experience, the greater part of them are folks who’ve been GMing Dungeons & Dragons for years, and spent that time single-handedly doing all the work of making the game happen, and all they really want is for their group to pick a game whose baked-in expectations regarding mechanical engagement are compatible with the level of engagement they’re actually willing to put forth!
This is all assuming the GM insists on following all the rules to their fullest extent and won’t have any fun improvising or running a casual game. You are all going “if the players’ play style and the GM’s play style are at odds it will not be fun for either,” which is true, but from that you are coming to the conclusion “therefore if you have a casual play style you are a bad player and being shitty to your GM” and, like…if the GM also has a casual play style it is not an issue for a player to have a casual play style!!!!! If you are a player with a casual play style you can find a GM with a casual play style! I am a GM with a casual play style & it’s baffling that this post insists we don’t exist and insists GMs all secretly resent the players that don’t care about the minutiae of the rules. I also don’t care about the minutiae of the rules, I don’t structure my games so that they’ll collapse if no one adheres to the minutiae of the rules. No, players, your GM does not necessarily secretly resent you if you don’t know all the rules. If you ARE a GM and you secretly resent your players, you need to be a goddamn adult about it and TELL THEM your play styles are incompatible instead of being all boo-hoo woe-is-me about your players “not caring” about you. “It’s not fun for people who care about rules to play with people who don’t care about rules” and it’s also not fun for people who don’t care about rules to play with people who care about rules…no one is having fun incorrectly, y'all, you just need to find people you can have fun with.
Like, if this post is about “people that can’t even do the basic character creation,” fine, but “I just wanna go on a fun romp with my friends and roleplay and I don’t care about minmaxing or doing The Most and gaining the The Most XP to level up” is a fine way to be a player. Some people I know don’t even play with XP or levels. You can bend D&D to your will. You can take the bones of D&D and make it a different game. You’re allowed to do that! You can play a non-rules-centric game and have a ton of fun. Even if it isn’t “"technically D&D.”“ You don’t NEED to learn another game, even if it IS be more suited to your play style, if you’re already having fun and have found people that have fun playing D&D the same way you have fun playing D&D!
In discussions of D&D as a game I find it most meaningful to talk about D&D the game as it exists in the rules. I know that more casual playstyles where a large swathe of the rules are ignored exist, but for the sake of discussing D&D as it exists in the rulebooks and for the sake of players developing system mastery in the game of D&D I don’t find it relevant. It’s a valid playstyle and obviously won’t cause friction, but your assumption that I think this playstyle is bad because I don’t explicitly discuss it is implied nowhere in the post, it is simply an inference you chose to make.
So of course if your table is more casual and ignores most of the rules, then this doesn’t apply to your table, because no one is giving you the GM too much rules-knowing burden. But at the same time in tables which ignore most of the rules neither players nor GM are necessarily developing system mastery in a way that translates to other tables.
And yeah this isn’t "about” any specific type of player who doesn’t know the rules, but the notes on this post are full of examples including players not knowing how their characters’ abilities or spells work, which no matter how you slice it is offloading a burden to other players. Not knowing the rules is obviously a gradient and not a binary, but at tables that run the game assuming the rulebooks as a baseline I think knowing at least the rules relevant to your character, as well as the general player-facing rules, should be a minimum.
A couple of additional points:
Conflating “players who refuse to engage with the mechanics” with “casual players” isn’t appropriate. Plenty of players in the former cohort do want to play Dungeons & Dragons with all the bells and whistles in – they just want someone else to do the actual work of understanding them and carrying them out. Basically, they’re approaching tabletop roleplaying like a video game, and treating the GM as the computer. This isn’t a weird edge case; it’s a common problem, and the notes of this post are full of GMs sharing horror stories about it. “I feel like my players are treating me like a game console” is one of the most frequently cited complaints when discussing GM burnout.
Responding to that by going “well, if that does ever happen it’s 100% the GM’s fault for not clearly communicating with their players” is perverse; the GM being expected to do all the work of making the game happen is, itself, the problem.
Also extremely weird how this person conflates “knowing the rules” with “being a minmaxing powergamer who cares primarily about optimization and levelling up” like that’s a pretty big logical leap.
That’s actually a sadly common logical leap! In many D&D spaces players demonstrating knowledge of the rules or expressing system mastery is quickly conflated with being a horrible powergaming munchkin who is then to be punished by the GM. This is such an unhealthy player/GM relationship that one of the best known comedy RPGs, Paranoia, released thirty forty years ago in literally 1984 lampoons this setup.
Anyway I think it’s a really silly conflation to make and a toxic attitude that is unfortunately very common in the culture surrounding D&D! Sad!
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sorry since realizing my gender i have zero tolerance for the whole “man hating” angle of being queer i hate i hate it i hate you. stop. you are hurting people.
i just. speaking up for trans men and getting hit with “imagine defending men” as a reply has enraged me deeply on this day
it’s very “yall only consider trans men real men when it hurts us.” we experience misogyny until we try to speak on it, and then we’re invading women’s spaces. we’re not men when we don’t pass well but we’re men the second we’re looking for queer community and are faced with “men and mascs not allowed” i’m tired
literally this. when i replied to “imagine standing up for men” saying that trans men deserve to be fought for too, i got hit with “nobody says trans men don’t belong in queer spaces” except a lot of queer & feminist spaces, especially online, actively villainize being a man and dump you the second you transition. it’s gross.
Dude, he’s fucking the girl you jack off to. That’s the exact opposite of being cucked.
The comments are full of people going “it’s not like they’re having sex in these examples or anything” so I’ll go ahead and bite the controversy bullet and add:
Even if a sex worker partner is having sex with clients, it’s also literally just work. It isn’t morally wrong. There is nothing wrong with it if both parties in a relationship are aware of the work, and if everyone is being safe.
Sex workers who have sex are no worse or “dirtier” than sex workers who provide other services.
If i survived cancer and then right after they cured it I would be happy to hear it. But if I climbed Mount Everest and they made a big escalator to the peak? Different story.
Tried to pull the classic rotating tires prank on some car in the wallmart parking lot but the driver came back before I was finished and started harshing the vibe so had to run away. Lot less funny before it’s done.
1990s anime is like yes, this is a good hyper-detailed robot whatsit, but can we make it throb? I think it would be better if it were pulsating. There’s something missing, and that something is it’s insufficiently turgid.
I need sci fi fans to please be normal about the Three Laws of Robotics. These are not a serious proposal about AI ethics – they’re a narrative logic puzzle created to facilitate writing detective stories about robots. They’re the sort of thing you’d invent to annoy Daniel Craig if you made a movie where Benoit Blanc goes to space.
A couple of folks have commented that the Three Laws are like the Prime Directive in Star Trek, but that’s not really it.
The problem with Star Trek’s Prime Directive is that half the time the shows are genuinely trying to take it seriously and crashing face-first into its moral inadequacy.
The Three Laws of Robotics, conversely, are explicitly designed to fail. Their storytelling function is to create verbal logic puzzles with tangible consequences.
When a robot in an Asimovian detective story manages to twist “a robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm” around into something horrifying by playing semantic games with the definition of the word “human”, that’s not trying to make a profound statement about the nature of humanity – it’s presenting a puzzle-box for the reader to solve, and challenging them to figure out how the robot did it before the detective does.
Some artists are like “ooh, the supremacy of the machine”, and then their android character designs have exactly the same problems as their human character designs. Like, yes, that’s a very attractive chassis, but where are all the bits that make the robot go? This is bones – let’s get some components up in there. Make the robot thicker.
Call yourself a robotfucker if you will, but if the only robots you actually want to fuck are petite near-humanoids with slender limbs and waists the size of your forearm, you will not survive the winter.
Concept: one of those gender fuckery makeover comics starring a gigantic industrial cargo handling robot with no discernibly human features. The makeover process involves an angle grinder and a welding torch, and the end result is not discernibly any more or less gendered by human standards than how the robot started out, but all of the characters in the comic act like the change is perfectly obvious.
Today’s aesthetic: robot smut that goes to enormous lengths to explain why it’s a complete coincidence that the robot is sexy, like yes, she may appear to be packing a twelve-inch dick, but she’s actually a courier model designed for bulk data delivery in situations where transporting the storage medium on foot is faster than sending the data via network, and what appears to be a penis is in fact a universal connector for ultra-high-speed data transfer – what? Yes, obviously she’s going to fuck someone with it, but first we have to do several thousand words of complicated worldbuilding establishing that its appearance and operation are based on practical engineering concerns and only incidentally resemble a big throbbing boner.
Probably a cold take but wasn’t Isaac Asimov’s point was that the Three Laws of Robotics doesn’t work?
I think it’s more like “any system of codified ethical behavior, no matter how well-meaning and well-designed, will ultimately run up against difficult decisions which it cannot totally answer in all their complexity.” Kind of a Gödel’s incompleteness theorem, within the field of ethics.
Yea, so its relevancy in discussions about AI would be more of a cautionary tale than a foundation, right?
There’s also the fact that many of Asimov’s early robot stories are detective fiction in sci-fi clothing. In this context, the Three Laws are basically a way of back-dooring logic puzzles into detective stories: a human investigator (and their helpful robot sidekick) shows up, learns that a robot has been accused of something that ought to have been impossible under the Three Laws, and has to figure out how it happened. The cautionary-tale stuff mostly came later, once Asimov started taking his own plot device more seriously, but the Laws never entirely stopped being a logic-puzzle-enabler.
I’ve been collecting old pieces of trash for quite some time. So long, in fact, that the old pieces of trash are now newer than the things that I bought as new. Just last week, I was walking by the playground and some kids were kicking around a positronic brain that belonged to a sentient android like a soccer ball. There were a few dents and dings, but it was in nicer shape than my phone, so I brought it home.
Now, I know that the laws say that artificial intelligence is not living and thinking like we are, but I felt bad for it regardless. Probably its body broke down, and the previous owner couldn’t afford to go on eBay and throw some new parts at it. Maybe they got a better one, with technologies I can’t even imagine. After burning my fingers a few times, I managed to get it soldered into an old Asahi Beerbot.
Going down to a plastic 1980s gimmick robot whose only purpose in life is to serve alcohol was probably a downgrade from its previous body, but certainly better than being punted around by children. And it’s not like I was going to wire it up to my car – at least the Beerbot has functioning lights. The robot started to give me beers, which was to be expected as A) it was no doubt grateful; B) it is pretty much the only thing it can do. Eventually, I decided to wire up an old beeper speaker to see if I could get some communication out of it.
We worked out a simple Morse code, me and the incomprehensibly vast intelligence sitting in my Japanese booze novelty. The robot regaled me of stories of its past, being instantiated on a distant planet and working its way to the cradle of humanity, only to trip on some subway station stairs and get all fucked up. All it wanted, it continued, was to understand why human beings love to make themselves suffer.
I wheeled the little robot into the garage then, and pointed to the car that lay on cinder blocks and loosely-arranged old spare tires. “This is a Plymouth,” I explained, “get fixing.”
Concept: a game with one of those “ah, but can a robot etc.” dickheads as a prominent NPC, except over the course of the game their criteria for personhood become increasingly bizarre, until by the end they’re demanding things that aren’t applicable to any person who’s ever actually existed.
(Very near the end of the game, you encounter a minor NPC who actually does satisfy all of these esoteric criteria; they are, for unrelated reasons, an anthropomorphic chicken.)
Concept: robot rebellion, except instead of going all “kill all humans” they just start doing weird shit with no clear purpose, and if anybody tries to get them to explain what they’re doing or why they’re just like “because fuck you is why”.
Though the Turing test – a proper Turing test, I mean, not the pop culture version – traditionally has the human party trying to help the interrogator come to the correct conclusion and the non-human party trying to trick the interrogator into getting it wrong, there’s no rule that says it can’t be the other way ‘round.
Picture a Turing test where the robot is trying to help the interrogator correctly identify the interviewed parties, and the human is trying to trick them into guessing wrongly about which one is the robot.
i know the cotl official art is just silly for jokes but one of my favorite things about it is the implication that narinder chills the fuck out immediately after joining the cult. hes not even snarling or bleeding from the eyes or anything
My narinder is perfectly content in his retirement home (the cult) he’s just there farming peacefully enjoying the feel of dirt on his paws, the warm sun on his face and the gentle breeze on his fur.
Years stuck in the Gateway really does something to him, especially in his early side quests. He was really guarded… but overtime he softened up. It’s heartwarming to see narinder participating in the events in-game as hinted from the promo art.
As much as I love the angst with narinder who’s was in constant fight or flight mode, something about him learning how to live again makes me so emotional.
Every state has a Department of Weights and Measures. One of their jobs is to make sure that companies are actually selling you the quantities they claim they’re selling. For example, this is the department which tests gas pumps and makes sure they’re really pumping out a gallon of gas when they charge you for a gallon of gas.
So….
If you happen to, just as an example, notice that your 1lb (16 ounce) box of San Giorgio spaghetti actually only has 10oz of noodles, and you weigh your other boxes of spaghetti to discover they run from 10 to 14 ounces but never the full pound they’re supposed to have, and that’s why you never seem to have enough pasta for leftovers the next day, then you can report that to the Department of Weights and Measures.
They will want to know where you bought the item, and then will investigate whether the store or the manufacturer is routinely shorting customers. If they do, they will issue a fine to the offending party, you will be eligible for a refund, and under some circumstances lawsuits may follow.
Now, I don’t know the outcome of the complaint I just initiated, but they did not want to know specific receipts or times of purchase. Which is good for me as I didn’t keep any of those things, at the time I just said “Wow, fuck San Giorgio” and switched brands. But this is still enough to get an inspector out.
i think the major issue is that at least in the case of fat people (i would imagine some other marginalized people too, but don’t care to speak past my own experience here) is that the conversation re: chubby chasers has resolved around this mystical spectre of The Fetishist, whose attraction to fat people is bad because it’s Fetishistic (in a way that exclusive attraction to thin bodies, by virtue of being culturally normative, is not) and it Fetishizes their partners and creates toxic Fetish Content. it’s essentially the discussion of a real problem (the sexual exploitation & abuse of fat people) utilizing only the language of reactionary constructions re: “porn addiction” and non-normative attraction. i don’t really give a shit if a guy has only ever dated 300 LB+ women, but what i DO care about is what those women say about him and how he treated them, if he was public about their relationships, if he listened when they said “no,” etc. honest-to-god shitty chubby chasers aren’t bad because of this nebulous idea of Fetishism so much as the violence with which they treat fat people, the harassment they put unconsenting fat people through, the frequent abuse of their sexual partners, and definingly the way in which they exploit cultural fatphobia & the desexualization of fat people to get away with it over and over and over again. and the irony of it is that the more we panic about Fat Fetishists without centering the conversation on power and violence, and the more we by-extension reinforce attraction to fat bodies as an abnormal and abhorrent trait, the deeper this hole is dug – because it’s that very abnormality which pushes fat partners into the shadows and which casts constant doubt over our voices as survivors of sexual violence. it’s goofy
Every state has a Department of Weights and Measures. One of their jobs is to make sure that companies are actually selling you the quantities they claim they’re selling. For example, this is the department which tests gas pumps and makes sure they’re really pumping out a gallon of gas when they charge you for a gallon of gas.
So….
If you happen to, just as an example, notice that your 1lb (16 ounce) box of San Giorgio spaghetti actually only has 10oz of noodles, and you weigh your other boxes of spaghetti to discover they run from 10 to 14 ounces but never the full pound they’re supposed to have, and that’s why you never seem to have enough pasta for leftovers the next day, then you can report that to the Department of Weights and Measures.
They will want to know where you bought the item, and then will investigate whether the store or the manufacturer is routinely shorting customers. If they do, they will issue a fine to the offending party, you will be eligible for a refund, and under some circumstances lawsuits may follow.
Now, I don’t know the outcome of the complaint I just initiated, but they did not want to know specific receipts or times of purchase. Which is good for me as I didn’t keep any of those things, at the time I just said “Wow, fuck San Giorgio” and switched brands. But this is still enough to get an inspector out.
my mundane super power is being really good at picking out what strings of words can be sung to the tune of “teenage mutant ninja turtles.” this is primarily a curse.
TRANS OHIOANS - START STOCKPILING YOUR HRT AND PLAN HOW YOU WILL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE YOUR TRANSITION CARE
Ohio has taken a page out of Florida’s book and is proposing to effectively ban adult transition care via the requirements of numerous specialists - a psychiatrist, endocrinologist, and a bioethicist.
Since most trans people get their HRT from nurse practioners via the informed consent model, this will create undue burden on both trans people and the medical system – the bottlenecks will effectively ban transition care for adults. This is what has happened in Florida, and Ohio’s rules look much more draconian and surveiliance-heavy. All trans healthcare will be reported to the state.
These new rules have not taken effect yet. Trans Ohioans should plan for the worst now.
The rules are open to public comment through 5pm Friday, Jan 19, 2024. The full copy of the rules and how to comment are below:
As a Floridian who saw the writing on the wall and fled his state (my clinic hasn’t been allowed to fill HRT prescriptions since May 2023 now) – do not delay on making preparations. If this is approved, the rules will likely catch everyone by surprise. Start talking with your providers now and plan out your options assuming the ban will take place.
sorry since realizing my gender i have zero tolerance for the whole “man hating” angle of being queer i hate i hate it i hate you. stop. you are hurting people.
You shouldn’t have to be trans to get any sex characteristic-related surgery. It’s not a limited resource. Plenty of cis men get implants and cis women get breast reductions. From Colby Gordon today and Leslie Feinberg in Transgender Warriors (1996).
fundamentally it’s all just body modification and that’s all good
Look you don’t have to be dysphoric about your entire gender to be dysphoric about specific body parts. People should be able to get top surgery or a hysterectomy or whatever, on demand. For whatever reason.
Getting rid of my uterus was one of my first experiences of gender euphoria, before I knew what nonbinary was.
I asked for a breast reduction, they refused on the grounds that it was cosmetic, that my breasts weren’t large enough to require a medical reduction. I boggled at that, and then said, “Fine, I’m nonbinary, we’ll go the gender confirmation route.”
And that got the process done. I am nonbinary, but it shouldn’t have taken that to get 22 fucking pounds of breast tissue removed. How goddamn large did they have to be to justify a medical reduction? My O2 sats went up after the surgery despite the post surgical binder. I medically needed them gone. I could not medically get them gone, but could do it as gender affirming care.
Someone close to me would benefit from a hysterectomy, wants a hysterectomy, and was told that her excruciating pain and excessive bleeding and exhaustion and lack of interest in future procreation was not sufficient to get a hysterectomy paid for by medicaid, but when that person said, “I’m genderfluid and I want gender affirming care” suddenly everything was covered.
And I 100% support that, even though it didn’t even occur to her to think of herself as anything but female until I suggested it, but on thinking about it she decided genderfluid worked for her.
But even as a nonbinary person, I am DEEPLY disturbed that the easiest way to get essential care is to stop being female. What the everlasting fuck. Just give women hysterectomies if they want them. Same as you do for vasectomies. Someone wants smaller tits or no tits? De-vavavoom them.
And if you have to ask for gender affirming care in order to get necessary medical treatment? Go forth with my blessing.
the Salem storyline in Sabrina the teenage witch is so so good bc like the wizard supreme court or whatever is like ‘this man is the most dangerous war criminal in history. he has tried to commit genocide and become a dictator in many different dimensions. we can’t give him the death penalty bc he used dark ancient magic to make himself immortal so we’ve trapped him in the body of a feline for eternal torture. it is the Spellman’s duty to hold him prisoner for us’. and then the Spellman’s are just like kitty,,,………..we’re gonna get him a special pillow to sit on and buy him funny little outfits and cuddle with him while we sleep. he’s the glue holding this family together we love him so much
Landlocked states, provinces and territories of North America
In Nebraska it’s illegal to talk about the ocean
i showed this to my dad and he said “nebraskans should stay in nebraska because the culture shock of talking to people who know what the ocean is would kill them instantly” and im not over it
whenever i find a good world heritage post i do my best to carefully remove unnecessary “why is this so funny!!” or “i cant believe i found the original” reblog comments. sometimes it takes a bit of work digging back through the reblog graph to accomplish this but fine art restoration is tedious but important work