you don't actually get to cry "ally yourself with trans women" while actively talking over trans women whose traumatic experiences with transmisogyny are wildly ignored in favor of how hard transmisogyny is on the cis women. like why don't trans women get to say privilege plays into how much transmisogyny affects people?
do we not characterize white privilege as being what protects white americans from the systematic racism that permeates the US?
again, what is the preferred way you would have us refer to that privilege? because I am right here telling you that privilege is a part of the construct of tme/tma but you don't really care that trans women are more affected.
like it's crazy that you seem to think my problem is with the transvestigation playing out against a cis woman and not the way everyone pays attention when it happens to cis women but ignores the rampant transmisogyny when it happens to a trans woman. like you don't even pause to look at why there were no trans women at the olympics to transvestigate in the first place so they turned to the next marginalized option, intersex and women of color, when discussing how trans women deserve better.
Hi I'm the trans woman I deserve better from you specifically
To be completely honest this is looking less and less like a good faith discussion and more and more like you simply accusing me of stuff I didn’t say.
You say I am actively talking over trans women. How so? How is “we need to address transmisogyny at its root if we want things to be better” ignoring the plight of trans women?
How is it that I have *repeatedly* acknowledged that there is privilege there, and yet apparently I am ignoring it?
if you want to use the race example: white privilege exists. Racism also affects white people. If white people want to stop being affected by racism (welfare regulations, the war on drugs, low income housing, social programs for community aid, to name a few) then maybe they should ally themselves with people of color because the root of what’s causing issues with these things is racism. That doesn’t mean white privilege doesn’t exist just because a system of oppression affects everyone under said system. It doesn’t even mean that the primary target has changed. It’s just what makes this a system rather than an individual occurrence.
Never once have I said that cis women are more affected and, in fact, in followup posts I have stated that it *is* quite annoying that people have only been talking about this because this year’s Olympics included approximately 0 out trans women. I have been saying that this was the clear end result, once they were rid of the trans women they’d go for whatever cis women they could feasibly get away with, and this time it seems they overplayed their hand.
Castor Semenya is a cis woman who only found out that she is intersex due to being transvestigated. She is, by definition, TME. Except she’s not, is she, considering the same rules that apply to trans women apply to her. That’s why I brought her up! And- correct me if I’m wrong- but out trans women still competed after she was forced to leave the Olympic running. That is why I’m saying that things maybe are not quite so clear cut as “have” and “have not”, because I can point to an example of someone that the definition labels as “has privilege” that according to Olympic ruling bodies no longer counts as a woman either despite being afab TME cis.
If you want to continue to put words in my mouth, then we’re out of things to say to each other, and it becomes clear that this was never intended to be a good faith discussion in the first place.
You say you deserve better.
What do you want, that you would consider better? What do you want me to say? What do you want me to do?
Because I have said the things you’re claiming I don’t say, several times now, each in response to both your asks and the original discussions.
I am asking how someone is exempt from systemic oppression.
A system affects *everyone* because it is built into the very structure of society. You *cannot* be exempt from a system unless you exist wholly outside of that system, and currently there is no existence outside of transmisogynistic systems. This is what I mean when I say this is fairly basic civil rights, intersectional, feminist theory. This is not new. This is taken directly from one of many equity and equality projects trying to undo harmful systems *such as racism and transmisogyny*.
The fact that I log into tumblr and state literally the most lukewarm basic ass social movement theory broadly used and accepted by countless groups including groups intended to help with the very problems being discussed, and somehow that’s enough to label me as an enemy, is absolutely fucking bonkers.
What do you want me to say? What is acceptable enough for you? Because it’s looking like a game of moving goalposts to me.
