ROMAN: besides the usual stuff that goes on around here? not that much, surprisingly. spamton usually filters through all the junk we get in our council inbox.
ROMAN: …..by eating it.
SPAMTON JR: HEY!! D0N’T [Discount] ‘TIL U TRY [Spam Recognized]!
and hilariously that is not why it is called that.
It is the circle of the bears cause of ursa major and ursa minor, and the circle without bears cause ya'know opposite part of the sky.
We lucked right into that one….
#so what you’re saying is#the stars dictate whether bears do or do not exist in places
Astrology is real but only for predicting where bears will be
Bears do not travel to places they cannot see their gods
I’ve seen this post before but it only just occurred to me that there might be some sort of underlying reason that “places where bears are” and “places where people name stars after bears” overlap.
Reblogging for that last comment.
We peaked with this one. Should’ve shutdown the internet after this
kill your darlings. but first, overanalyze them for six months, rewrite their backstory twice, and cry because they deserved better (but yeah, kill them).
Whenever an artist who makes dark content gets outed as a sexual predator people will be like ‘aha it was obvious something was up because their work was so dark and nasty’ and whenever an artist who makes wholesome content gets outed as a sexual predator people will be like 'aha it was obvious something was up because their work was so aggressively wholesome’ and it’s like you know I think maybe you can’t tell whether or not someone is a predator based on their artistic output.
There are a few exceptions but they tend to be pretty glaring ones: e.g. Woody Allen made a whole movie justifying being into teenage girls over women his own age (is this an uncharitable reading of Manhattan? perhaps, it’s about other things too. is it a wrong one though? no and if you’ve seen it and are honest with yourself, you know I’m right) and his particular set of Issues With Women are all over a lot of his work. But he also has a self-insert character who is usually played by him in most of his movies, so it’s not a stretch to say he puts more of himself in his work than most directors do.
Artists usually put some of themselves in their work, not none but also not all. Which parts get in there, the artist doesn’t often even have as much control over as they think. Most people who’ve ever made art in any form have likely experienced this - well it’s just as true for people who do this professionally.
But it’s never as straightforward or as sweeping as “dark stuff” or “wholesome stuff.” It’s far more complicated than that. And idiosyncratic - it expresses itself a little differently with each person and each work of art they create.
Sometimes you can get a sense of someone’s unconscious biases in their work particularly if they revisit a theme in a shitty way multiple times or say weird/shitty things about it in interviews/etc. Like if you see something which is a very obvious rape metaphor and then the creator goes on about how ~it’s not rape, it’s eroticism, she really likes it~ about something depicted as terrifying and violent which literally could not be consensual given its circumstances, it changes your read on it, and sometimes makes said creator seem like kind of a sexist dick. But not a rapist, because most sexist dicks are not rapists. Often with poorly-written rape what gets me is less the writing itself than when an author turns up and goes “Hey that thing I wrote? Totally isn’t rape! It’s consensual, good and fine!” and then you’re like, “Oh, you actually don’t understand how rape works, do you. Yikes!”, because interviews with people who do understand what they’re writing about will usually elaborate on that understanding rather than make what was written look worse knowing the author viewed it as “positive” or whatever. Some people will assume writing about that topic = “I think it’s consensual, good and fine” and that’s silly, but if an author gets up and says that they think that… I’ll take their word for it!
But. The thing is, you really can’t get a sense of someone’s actions even from that—just their ideas about a given topic. Unfortunately, we live in rape culture and that means a lot of people who are not rapists have very, very wrong ideas about what rape is and does. That sucks, and it may well put me off an author/their work, but it is not the same thing as being a rapist.
My number one reaction to someone’s biases flagging up in their work—not the topic, but how it’s handled (eg is there racism, sexism etc in how it’s presented in some notable way) is, “Welp, that person seems out of touch/like they don’t know what they’re on about at best,” and most of the time, yeah, it’s not evidence of criminality, it’s ignorance.
Now, that doesn’t mean ignorance can’t turn into an agenda over time, but that still has basically nothing to do with specific personal actions. Works that have an agenda (positive or negative!) are usually about projecting values on purpose (like prev’s example, Woody Allen’s story is making an argument not on how he specifically did what he’s accused of, but why it should be OK to do things he thinks are OK but that others disagree with). But he is an exception in that I genuinely can’t think of any “dark fiction” which was making a brief for shit like murder being OK! I’ve seen it written by conservative or bigoted authors whose works they’ve inserted their politics into on purpose, but most often it’s actually about associating people they dislike with the bad thing, rather than endorsing doing it, because weaponizing social taboos against people you hate is way easier than making a brief against the social taboo’s existence.
99% of the time if an author is really showing their ass in their work for some reason, they’re already showing their ass outside of their work… further elaboration incoming, so readmore bc this is long already.
Whenever an artist who makes dark content gets outed as a sexual predator people will be like ‘aha it was obvious something was up because their work was so dark and nasty’ and whenever an artist who makes wholesome content gets outed as a sexual predator people will be like 'aha it was obvious something was up because their work was so aggressively wholesome’ and it’s like you know I think maybe you can’t tell whether or not someone is a predator based on their artistic output.
There are a few exceptions but they tend to be pretty glaring ones: e.g. Woody Allen made a whole movie justifying being into teenage girls over women his own age (is this an uncharitable reading of Manhattan? perhaps, it’s about other things too. is it a wrong one though? no and if you’ve seen it and are honest with yourself, you know I’m right) and his particular set of Issues With Women are all over a lot of his work. But he also has a self-insert character who is usually played by him in most of his movies, so it’s not a stretch to say he puts more of himself in his work than most directors do.
Artists usually put some of themselves in their work, not none but also not all. Which parts get in there, the artist doesn’t often even have as much control over as they think. Most people who’ve ever made art in any form have likely experienced this - well it’s just as true for people who do this professionally.
But it’s never as straightforward or as sweeping as “dark stuff” or “wholesome stuff.” It’s far more complicated than that. And idiosyncratic - it expresses itself a little differently with each person and each work of art they create.
Sometimes you can get a sense of someone’s unconscious biases in their work particularly if they revisit a theme in a shitty way multiple times or say weird/shitty things about it in interviews/etc. Like if you see something which is a very obvious rape metaphor and then the creator goes on about how ~it’s not rape, it’s eroticism, she really likes it~ about something depicted as terrifying and violent which literally could not be consensual given its circumstances, it changes your read on it, and sometimes makes said creator seem like kind of a sexist dick. But not a rapist, because most sexist dicks are not rapists. Often with poorly-written rape what gets me is less the writing itself than when an author turns up and goes “Hey that thing I wrote? Totally isn’t rape! It’s consensual, good and fine!” and then you’re like, “Oh, you actually don’t understand how rape works, do you. Yikes!”, because interviews with people who do understand what they’re writing about will usually elaborate on that understanding rather than make what was written look worse knowing the author viewed it as “positive” or whatever. Some people will assume writing about that topic = “I think it’s consensual, good and fine” and that’s silly, but if an author gets up and says that they think that… I’ll take their word for it!
But. The thing is, you really can’t get a sense of someone’s actions even from that—just their ideas about a given topic. Unfortunately, we live in rape culture and that means a lot of people who are not rapists have very, very wrong ideas about what rape is and does. That sucks, and it may well put me off an author/their work, but it is not the same thing as being a rapist.
My number one reaction to someone’s biases flagging up in their work—not the topic, but how it’s handled (eg is there racism, sexism etc in how it’s presented in some notable way) is, “Welp, that person seems out of touch/like they don’t know what they’re on about at best,” and most of the time, yeah, it’s not evidence of criminality, it’s ignorance.
Now, that doesn’t mean ignorance can’t turn into an agenda over time, but that still has basically nothing to do with specific personal actions. Works that have an agenda (positive or negative!) are usually about projecting values on purpose (like prev’s example, Woody Allen’s story is making an argument not on how he specifically did what he’s accused of, but why it should be OK to do things he thinks are OK but that others disagree with). But he is an exception in that I genuinely can’t think of any “dark fiction” which was making a brief for shit like murder being OK! I’ve seen it written by conservative or bigoted authors whose works they’ve inserted their politics into on purpose, but most often it’s actually about associating people they dislike with the bad thing, rather than endorsing doing it, because weaponizing social taboos against people you hate is way easier than making a brief against the social taboo’s existence.
99% of the time if an author is really showing their ass in their work for some reason, they’re already showing their ass outside of their work… further elaboration incoming, so readmore bc this is long already.
(never feel bad about doing this whether it’s to deepen the character, have fun, or build interesting headcanons! Even shit about what their favorite type of jelly bean is makes them feel more complex to you and that’s fun! GO NUTS!)
I started thinking about that one post about how from dogs POV humans are beings that live like 500+ years (because I was petting my dog and I was looking at her like “thirty thousand years of cooperation have led to this. our species have spent 30k years building up to the point where you, child of wolf, descendant of noble hunters and wild things, would come all the way out of the office and come sit with me in the hopes of letting a souped up monkey rub its paws on you”)
and then I thought about what it must have been like for the first humans to let a fucking wolf, maybe only a few generations from the wild, behold their infant child. Like man can u believe that? Maybe this alliance is only a few years old and sure you’ve seen the wolf’s kids but now you’ve got one of your own. And even though you’ve seen this wolf tear out the throats of creatures that could kill you, this wolf is your family. This wolf is your friend, you love them and they love you and you gotta show ‘em the new kid, look, friend, I had a child. I know you are wild and dangerous, but look at this, my most precious thing, sniff him, give him a lil lick, his children and your children will be bound together for thirty thousand fucking years because I love you
There’s a set of preserved footprints from 30k years ago that is a young child and a wolf standing side by side
can you fucking imagine? Maybe the kid’s mom was like “hey go get some water from the stream, but take the wolf with you. I trust him, he will protect you.”
that one scene in hotel transmasculine where that guy shows Mavis the first sunrise she’s ever seen while making sure she doesn’t get burnt invented vampire/human romance actually like twilight could NEVER
TiL (click to go to the thread, which probably has more interesting tidbits I missed).
Bonus:
These are my people.
Betting I’ve reblogged this before. Betting I’ll reblog it when it turns up again.
In addition to the print terminology stuff: the visual shorthand icons and ad graphics for something about writing are still often pen-nibs, fountain pens and typewriters…
…while graphics of a monitor, keyboard and mouse remain visual shorthand for computing…
…even though most writers now use monitor / keyboard / mouse or even laptop / touchpad.
In addition, headers for “this blog / website is about writing” are often in one of the many imitation typewriter fonts complete with smudges, or just Courier.
The start and end call icons on most / all smartphones is still the handset of a classic desk telephone, and sometimes the open-app icon is a complete phone.
The term “hang up” for “end the call” refers to something even older - one of these…
And of course the Save icon
is indeed a 3½ inch floppy disc.
Why it wasn’t a
5¼
floppy is a mystery. The icon version is just as distinctive.
Also, why various OP updates never changed “Save” to the graphic of a CD / DVD or flash drive is another mystery, and nowadays a Save icon should probably be a cartoon cloud.
Graphics and terminology are funny things.
reblogging this again for EVEN MORE information.
I’m mostly entertained by the guy who thinks you need to know that “case” means “box” in French as though that’s not what it means in English.
skeumorphism my beloved
It’s fascinating. This post alternately made me feel old and taught me something. Tumblr is amazing.
And because we continue to use signs of ancient hardware, youngsters come up with questions like “why is the icon for ‘save’ a vending machine with a can of soda?” (One day I’ll find that post and link it)
The reason the save icon is a 3.5" floppy seems to mainly be that 3.5" disks were the most common disk by the time graphical interfaces got popular on PCs. Earlier stuff was more text based so they didn’t have or need icons.
But there are always exceptions. Lotus 1-2-3 for windows uses 5.25" disks for the save and load icons!
TiL (click to go to the thread, which probably has more interesting tidbits I missed).
Bonus:
These are my people.
Betting I’ve reblogged this before. Betting I’ll reblog it when it turns up again.
In addition to the print terminology stuff: the visual shorthand icons and ad graphics for something about writing are still often pen-nibs, fountain pens and typewriters…
…while graphics of a monitor, keyboard and mouse remain visual shorthand for computing…
…even though most writers now use monitor / keyboard / mouse or even laptop / touchpad.
In addition, headers for “this blog / website is about writing” are often in one of the many imitation typewriter fonts complete with smudges, or just Courier.
The start and end call icons on most / all smartphones is still the handset of a classic desk telephone, and sometimes the open-app icon is a complete phone.
The term “hang up” for “end the call” refers to something even older - one of these…
And of course the Save icon
is indeed a 3½ inch floppy disc.
Why it wasn’t a
5¼
floppy is a mystery. The icon version is just as distinctive.
Also, why various OP updates never changed “Save” to the graphic of a CD / DVD or flash drive is another mystery, and nowadays a Save icon should probably be a cartoon cloud.
Graphics and terminology are funny things.
reblogging this again for EVEN MORE information.
I’m mostly entertained by the guy who thinks you need to know that “case” means “box” in French as though that’s not what it means in English.
skeumorphism my beloved
It’s fascinating. This post alternately made me feel old and taught me something. Tumblr is amazing.
And because we continue to use signs of ancient hardware, youngsters come up with questions like “why is the icon for ‘save’ a vending machine with a can of soda?” (One day I’ll find that post and link it)
The reason the save icon is a 3.5" floppy seems to mainly be that 3.5" disks were the most common disk by the time graphical interfaces got popular on PCs. Earlier stuff was more text based so they didn’t have or need icons.
But there are always exceptions. Lotus 1-2-3 for windows uses 5.25" disks for the save and load icons!
“can we normalize-” NO!!!!!! we do not need to expand whats considered normal!!! we need to teach people to stop reacting judgmentally when encountering something new and weird!!!! things dont need to be normal to be respected!!!!!!!!!!
“can we normalize-” NO!!!!!! we do not need to expand whats considered normal!!! we need to teach people to stop reacting judgmentally when encountering something new and weird!!!! things dont need to be normal to be respected!!!!!!!!!!
hold on a fucking second. delaware is a state?? i thought it was a river? or is the river more important than the state? why don't i know this? (i should mention i don't like in america, i'm just confused)
the rive is a monster that spans new york, pennsylvania, new jersey and delaware. also washington crossed it once and that was like kinda a big deal i guess. like crossing the rubicon in rome.
the state tries to me more important with its “im the first state!!!” bs (seriously its even on the fucking license plates) but we all know. its the river.
THATS TUPPERWARE
i thought delaware was a place in ohio? why are there so many things named delaware?
delaware is too powerful
what the fuck
Wait what? I thought Delaware was a store with building supplies. Like paint, wood, nails and stuff?
THATS HOME DEPOT ???
I know home depot, but dude I don’t know anything about America mad have never been there. Are you sure there is not a some sort of store called something close to Delaware!?!
…..ace hardware….?
this post has only been around for a few hours but could very well be a world heritage post
but at what cost
This post launched at 8am PST on 12 Feb 2021. The above conversation has happened in 3 hours.
he WHAT? i thought he was from. w. wait. ???
delaware stole the presidents shoelaces for clout and became too powerful
From the UK- and what do you mean Delaware isn’t a type of ceramic?
I think they meant Dell Ware, a specific computer type. We had a Dell computer once.
I thought Delaware was that famous singer they spoofed in Zootopia.
gazelle??
oh i thought delaware was that one british singer lady, you know, the one from chasing pavements
that’s fucking adele
isn’t delaware that place you go when you die
youre thinking of superhell and all of you are going there
how the fuck did any of you come to the conclusions you all made
we live in america?
I thought Delaware was that food delivery service that keeps interrupting youtube videos with their ads when I’m trying to have a good time
….. are you talking about Doordash???
Isn’t Delawere the name of that one girl in the song that goes “Hey there, Delawere”? She’s from NYC or something.
THATS HEY THERE DELILAH
Pausing here to point out that op is “dear-AO3″ and now I’m wondering if Delaware fanfic would be categorized as RSF (real state fic) or AU (alternate unitedstates)
stop i do not want to think about this
Isn’t Delaware that SPN ship that exploded the internet
Everyone on this post:
I love that the “no, that’s [x]” meme is making a comeback here and only here and nobody has any idea what’s going on
Keep up the good work, we can make poor OP have a melt down yet.
Isn’t delaware that one brand of pizza that’s like “it’s not delivery, it’s delaware.”
isn’t delaware the god of the sea
Isn’t Delaware the name of that guy who painted the Mona Lisa?
delaware is that one evil cyborg guy that has a son named Luke and a red laser sword
Thats Darth Vader. Im pretty sure Delaware is that other red-laser sword guy. You know. The one that stabbed Qui-Gon.
what have i created
I usually only reblog older posts, but this definitely deserves to be in every tumblr hall of fame
this post has only existed for 8 days.
This is fantastic because it goes great with my theory that Delaware only exists for tax purposes. Like, all the states really only exists for Tax Purposes, but Delaware is particularly fake because back in 2012 I got lost in the Alleged Delaware Area looking trying to get to a family reunion, but every time I pulled over for directions, I would ask what the hell state I was in now, and I went through Mayland, Pennsylvania, New Jersey AND Virginia and I never fucking found Delaware but I did eventually find the Family Reunion and earned the repsepct of my then-prospective- Great-Grandmother-In-Law by saving her favorite grandchildren from a furious oceangoing horse so I’m convinced that not only is the state a purely legal construct, they didn’t even dedicate any landmass to it, or it’s a gov’t blackzone where the carnivorous horses live.
World Heritage Post
fun fact, i actually drove through delaware on this posts 6 month birthday. i hate it here.
This post literally fills me with life,tysm.
This post confused the heck out of me, I don’t even know what’s going on in this post, why the hell am I rebloging it?
In the second Sonic movie, he refers to him self as ‘hedgehog of the house’ in Tom’s absence instead of ‘man of the house’ further implying his gender is hedgehog
ALT
ALT
