vegans will pretend not to hear when natives tell them their agave products are unsustainable because they have whimsical feelings about, and i cannot stress this enough, the freedom of hive insects
Honey is literally murder but go off
Prove it.
They literally puke their guts up to make your honey
I have not seen any evidence tonsugges they are harmed or die in the process of production. They do regurgitate the nectar as part of the process to concentrate it into honey (an interesting process) but they do not suffer any injury during this process. If they did, the cost to produce honey, which is done naturally as a measure to survive over winter and through times of lower availability, would outweigh the benefits. If you kill several bees to produce enough honey to make one more bee, It makes no sense. Any animal that did that would die, even with human intervention.
Do you have any sources which suggest otherwise? I’d be interested to hear of this (relatively publicly available) information was false or misunderstood.
Bee farmers use whats called a honey maker. It’s a crude devices. It similar to a meat grinder. They force the bees in and grind them up. What comes out is a paste. That paste is later filtered into what we know as honey
they might be falsely thinking about a honey extractor machine. but all these do is you place the beehive frames inside and a motor rotates it at a speed that removes the honey, which is then tapped through a tap at the bottom.
…do they think they put bees in that and spin them around until they vomit…?
bee carnival
bad and naughty bees get put into the b e e c e n t r i f u g e to extract their honey
Vegans coming after beekeepers is one of my major teeth grinding annoyances. For many reasons, because there’s so many lies. And to go one step further because it’s such a waste. You see, the strongest vegan argument is that they don’t want to exploit animals or take from them without their consent.
… but… Bees consent. NO. I’M NOT KIDDING.
How? Bee hives aren’t kept on leashes. They’re outside, the bees can travel miles every day. They follow their queen. Who is also outside, not on a leash, and can travel miles every day. If she doesn’t like the hive for any reason - for example: it got too hot, too cold, too messy, too filled with sugary stuff and they need more space… then the queen leaves. And with her the hive.
The queen stays in the hive because the hive is the best place to live. Period. Done. End of.If the hive is staying with the beekeeper it’s because the keeper is doing their job correctly and keeping them happy because the bees can, and do, leave bad beekeepers.
Of all the animals we have domesticated as livestock, bees are the ones you can most easily argue are consenting participants in their keeping.
the real honest answer to “why didnt they just [insert solution that would end the story in five minutes]” is because that would end the story in five minutes and if we lived in a world where every story ended in five minutes what would be the point
People in the notes are saying they’re not sure if this is satire or not.
It very much is, and if you haven’t seen it before, it’s also referencing the famous ‘Gotcha’ comic by the same artist that riffs on obnoxious argumentative fallacies:
Kudos to the artist for making this asshat so fucking punchable that I actually want to yeet my phone to smash his face
*sidles up to you at the bar* would you like to hear my wise aphorism
only if it’s actually wise. the last guy who asked me this had a pretty foolish aphorism tbh
oh… uhuh… *really should have prepared this ahead of time* never ignore… the melody of time… when your shoe’s untied?
*considers this aphorism sagely, sipping my horrible and bitter potion*
yes. there is wisdom in this. he whose shoes are untied must carefully mind the rhythm of his steps. bartender, another Wretched Potion, for my comrade here
Scientific fraud is the most baffling thing ever to me like do they think they’re just going to make a huge breakthrough and no one will notice that it’s fake by trying to replicate their results
i hate when ppl edit the life is a fuck image to be joyous or whatever and they change the last line. fuck you 410,757,864,530 dead cops is the most joyous and uplifting message possible
Genuinely, the best protection against people like this is urging your local and school libraries to have policies that they only accept challenges from people within their district or service area.
Or having them cite specific evidence directly from the book to prove that they actually read it. Sounds like this person doesn’t bother.
I feel like some people need to relearn Genre Expectations… “Man, this tragedy sucks!!! Why didn’t they just do XYZ, then everything could have ended happily!!” well, then it wouldn’t be a tragedy, would it. “Man, this lighthearted teen romcom is terrible, it’s so sappy and unrealistic!!” Well, yeah. If it had been gritty and dark, it wouldn’t have been a lighthearted romcom, would it. Is the writing actually bad or are you just trying to order a milkshake from a Home Depot
Some people got so deep into the deconstruction media phase that they don’t like anything normally constructed any more.
I always find the “warhammer/40k is fascist propaganda”-discussion fascinating.
On one side there are acctual fascists seeing this horrible and depraved world and going: “Goals!”
On the other there are people saying its indeed fascist propaganda and glorifying its abuses. “Just look at the former group and how they act”
And im just sitting here in the corner going “its a cautionary tale, sometimes handled not very well since they have like 400 different authors and a lack of cohesion.
I’m being screamed at from both sides, and im starting to actually doubt my own reading and comprehension abilities, is satire truly dead? And am I beating its dead horse?
So I went and checked out the biggest BL authors twitter pages, its editors, game developers and lore experts too.
Pretty much every single one of them reblog or post about social issues, are anti-royalist and pro free healthcare and feminist issues. They genuinely seem like good guys, very unlike the “fans” in the first group.
I find is so bizarre that this discussion even exists when social media makes it so easy to reach out and just go “Hey, what are the allegory and moral behind this story?” and its author actually answers.
And still, people misconstrue things, claims it isn’t satire, and just make things up that aren’t there. When the truth is so easy to find with just a few minutes of research.
Ok but like. What the fuck is there to do on the internet anymore?
Idk when I was younger, you could just go and go and find exciting new websites full of whatever cool things you wanted to explore. An overabundance of ways to occupy your time online.
Now, it’s just… Social media. That’s it. Social media and news sites. And I’m tired of social media and I’m tired of the news.
Am I just like completely inept at finding new things or has the internet just fallen apart that much with the problems of SEO and web 3.0 turning everything into a same-site prison?
ALSO you should consider browsing Virtual Pet List and seeing if there are any pet sites you might be interested in playing. There is a whole genre of browser games right under your nose
Another one that I just found recently is this, which is a whole collection of blogs, organized by topic!
Look guys the real internet IS STILL THERE I’m going to cry
My site’s hosted by neocities too and it’s literally just $5 a month (!)….that’s a site now 22 years old, I have some 60,000 files on it constituting several gigs. Other site hosts are like $40 a month to host a quarter what I have. Everybody get a neocities account and keep rebuilding the internet
my mom purposely overpaid her credit card bill by 1 cent so every month they send her a letter that says they owe her 1 cent and it costs them a dollar to send the letter plus the paper. she is costing corporations money 👍
Yes, but the added environmental cost of mailing a paper letter…
do you think they cut down a whole tree because my mom overpaid one cent. do you think they make one new piece of paper every time they need one
But trucks have to move that paper!
are you not aware that those trucks would be going either way. they aren’t taking another trip for one envelope
hello my name is billy postman, operator of the world’s smallest and most environmentally harmful mail truck. it is one envelope big and requires thirty seven gallons of fuel to go one mile. (I personally am about one and a half envelopes big) my beloved truck is very slow and very loud and I hate both flora and fauna so so so much. I love corporations though
Just got reminded of my homebrew dungeon world setting I never got around to running where the bit was that the whole world was a cosmically massive labyrinthine super structure built by god to imprison the cosmology’s satan figure, a literal Dungeon World, and all the monsters and magic and rpg shit were like emanations from the imprisoned satan guy and the shit keeping him locked down.
Any way i think dwarves in this setting would be cosmically radical prison abolitionists who dig cause they’re trying to free the devil from hell
Minotaurs would be op because if it’s all a labyrinth, they know everywhere they go
I thought the bit with the minotaur was that they put him in labyrinth to keep him in there so wouldn’t that mean they don’t know how to get around?
In dnd Minotaurs ironically have an ability where they perfectly remember every path they’ve taken through a labyrinth or maze.
I do think it’s absolutely damning how little I’ve seen anyone talk about the starfield companions, even in the form of criticism or a joke, but it also feels like the average person doesn’t realise just how dire of an omen that actually is
because there are four romance options in the game
Like even Fallout 4, despite how colossally mid that game is, got an enormous fandom response revolving around that game’s NPC companions. There was at least one aspect of that game’s writing that excited people and started so much conversation and fanfictions. It gave Fallout 4 an identity among Bethesda’s catalogue. What about Starfield? What makes it unique?
There’s just something about playing Starfield for about ten hours, putting it down because I got so bored and frustrated with it, and going back to Baldur’s Gate 3 and starting Cyberpunk 2077, both games that are not perfect but have a ton of heart and soul put into them, particularly into the character writing.
There’s nothing to Starfield. Of the characters in it, perhaps one of them has any traits or writing worthy of deeper analysis. Everyone else is a generic cardboard cutout, a cliche, a bland yes-man who exists solely to empower the player, or Mean Criminal Thug.
Starfield is weak. It is empty. It is a poor little nothing of a game squirted out of Todd Howard’s asshole as a middle finger to the idea of well-written RPGs. It is the apotheosis of Bethesda’s empty-sandbox approach to game design. Even beyond the characters, which as I said barely exist, the game is barren of almost anything interesting, and what little exists is locked behind a mountain of aggravating loading screens (INCLUDING IN THE MAIN HUBS, because Bethesda continues to insist upon using the Creation Engine which cannot handle seamless transitions), terrible and confusing space piloting controls, or both. Bethesda’s game design philosophy allegedly pursues player immersion above all other considerations, yet I was constantly yanked out of the game world by the wooden characters and by needing to stop every five minutes to fast travel to another star system because the game is so fragmented and disconnected. I’ve felt far more immersed in BG3, where every character and environment feels fully realized and has a story to tell, or in Cyberpunk, where I will occasionally forgo fast travel entirely and ride my motorcycle in the moody neon lighting, drinking in the sights and the sounds of the city.
Anyway I think we should kill Todd Howard with rocks
haven’t seen this on tumblr yet, and tis the season
[caption] driver, muttering: god damnit, it’s paul. driver, at full volume: mornin’ paul! paul, cheerfully: the world will be reduced to ash! driver, muttering again: jesus christ that guy creeps me out. [/caption]
[additionally the driver is brian david gilbert, paul is a skeleton sitting on a bench with its arm sticking in the air, and the voice of paul is also brian david gilbert]
I just think that ‘animals are living intelligent creatures that have feelings and deserve to be respected’ and 'when done properly farming is beneficial to both people and animals and there’s nothing wrong with raising and killing animals for food, clothing, and other products’ are concepts that very much can and should coexist
It’s always “revenge won’t give you back what you lost” and “murder is wrong” and never how was the bloody violent revenge the bloody violent revenge looked fun was it fun
Yeah it was pretty fun, just a lil messy, hang on let me just wash my hands real quick
My god this is applicable to so many situations: this is in no way a WE situation.
I love all this. So good. And I once saw a friend pull out the ONLY ACCEPTABLE PARENT LINE in a situation like this: “Are you hurt, or just scared?” IT WAS LIKE MAGIC. The kid paused, inhaled, looked down at the body part in question, then looked back up and said, all calm again, “Oh, just scared!” and back to business as usual.
i actually don’t want to play a civ-building game to “retrace the steps of Ramses II” or become France or build the golden gate bridge i want to start with some random tribe and give them their OWN identity and make their OWN country and build their OWN unique little things!!!
every civ game that’s not outright sci-fi or fantasy seems to fumble this so hard. “We’re not like Civilization… you can be Phoenicians in one era AND Polynesians the next” please i’m so tired. so uninterested in paint-by-numbers history
it makes sense to do things this way both for gameplay and practical reasons. ease of implementation, ease of theming civ-based bonuses etc etc. and also i do not care for it. if i start a planet from scratch i do not wish to see Earth things
listen. i see you in the replies saying Spore and Dwarf Fortress. and the thing is yes but no. Spore as we fantasized about in 2006 matches this to some degree; Spore as it released absolutely does not. it falls victim to its own scope and most meaningful choices are limited to a handful of preset routes. it is an impressive game for the breadth of cosmetic customization it offers but compared to the initial draft it retains tragically little to no simulation elements. your tribesfolks do not diverge in beliefs or culture beyond the war/commerce/religion ternary; their history does not evolve beyond the extremely simplified trait system. as for Dwarf Fortress i love it very very much but most of the neat things it does with dynamic culture (spheres, deities etc) mechanically does not do very much and is mostly there for flavor. there are some really interesting systems with historical figures and different creeds of the same species having different body types and hairstyles, but at the end of the day all dwarves enjoy beer and living underground, all elves abhor wooden goods and so on. do you understand the ideal of organic cultural growth i long for here. people have also mentioned Crusader Kings 3 and i have not yet played it so i’m gonna be doing that next
